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when does pr put their videos up?

West Australian Racing
i no longer tape any perth races to check, but i still do automatic data input.
my computer tells me that race 1 time is either a lie or the distance is incorrect.
a time of 67.53 seems fanciful to me, not that i care much, but intrigue has me in its grip.
but it needs a video to check!
come on pr

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,495 posts
    where is PR's little PTT helper?
  • GrayGray    4,090 posts
    Up now, just watched Neverlands win, huuuuuuuge and no other jock in WA could have done it.

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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    @gray That was a weird race. Sireeze surged late and looked like running away with the race and then got windburn when Neverland went past it. Not sure what to make of it. :-?
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    Gray said:

    Up now, just watched Neverlands win, huuuuuuuge and no other jock in WA could have done it.

    not on my computer they're not up.
    got a link gray?
  • lamelame    1,757 posts
    edited November 2015
  • GrayGray    4,090 posts
    edited November 2015
    http://www.perthracing.org.au/race-meetings/2015/nov/ascot---07-november-2015/race-1---perthracing-com-au-handicap---07-11-15


    Yes Sireeze looked like a champion for a tick there. Reminds me of Myladys Jewel when used to just jump out of nowhere
  • GrayGray    4,090 posts
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    danke shoen
  • GrayGray    4,090 posts
    I had sireeze in my exotics but not the 2nd horse.
  • GrayGray    4,090 posts
    I had sireeze in my exotics but not the 2nd horse.
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    amazingly the time is correct, which leaves distance.
    67.53 for 1100 is the sort of time I could run!!
    crikey there was a 1200m race run in 70.26 which is lest than 3 seconds for that 100m diff

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  • GrayGray    4,090 posts
    edited November 2015
    @carey

    keine sorge

    Means no worries haha
     


  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    :-? might be correct @carey   3 of them broke 34 for last 600m - must have really crawled early

    Magnifisio was the only other horse on the day to break 34
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    the distance IS wrong, well at least compared to the last time a 1100 metre event was held when the   rail was out 6m(31/01/2015 race 2)

    so it's the same old story in that backwater called perth.
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    if you look at the trees at left side of pictures and then look at the different barrier position..........how far wrong do we reckon????
    it's certainly a long way and considering how close the race was, entirely likely to have had a different result.

    they are both '1100' races with the rail out 6m.

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  • FastmoneyFastmoney    4,912 posts
    edited November 2015
    Is anyone aware of the process used for determining distances based on the rail position?

    Obviously flawed.
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    they should put the rail wherever and then use a wheel to measure.

    in perth they have no procedures or policies or checks or these things would NOT happen.
    it's the reason i walked.

    anyway i have figured that the wrong distance has meant about 2 and a bit seconds slower time than it would  have been if gates in right spot

    coruscation WINS that race if distance was correct, well, we will never really know, but it was only caught on the line
  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    Fastmoney said:

    Is anyone aware of the process used for determining distances based on the rail position?

    Obviously flawed.

    couldn't find anything for perth

    From another forum

    At Caulfield

    This is the reply from Mr Jason Kerr

    General Manager Racecourses | Race Course Managers

    Melbourne Racing Club



    "When the rail is out from the true position the barrier stalls are
    moved forward to allow for the greater distance covered around the
    turns. All starts have been surveyed and adjustments are exact so the
    race distance does not change regardless of where the rail is. The one exception* is the 1400m start when the rail is out 14 metres, we run 1440 metre races as the stalls cannot be moved too far forward as it is a short run to the turn. Thanks
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    wa moves the gates forward depending on distance to turn.
    that's not the issue.
    the issue is that they obviously don't have procedures in place to ensure all is correct,
    i reckon i have been raving on about this for 10 years or more and still they are friggen useless.


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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited November 2015
    how hard would it be to use a wheel each time the rail is in a different position. measure, peg it at true inside and also record the exact GPS location for each distance :-<
  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited November 2015
    *-:) maybe ole mate tore the peg up when he was putting in his drainage pipes - looked at it and thought WTF is this and just hammered it back in the ground "somewhere near" where it was =))

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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    somebody should tell paul jordan that he has likely been dudded in that race, because of incompetence.

  • lamelame    1,757 posts
    Legless said:

    how hard would it be to use a wheel each time the rail is in a different position. measure, peg it at true inside and also record the exact GPS location for each distance :-<

    gps would be the go , even my cheap fishing GPS can get me within 3ft every time compared to PR's give or take 10m she'll be right

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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    perth racing may have been the reason it's wrong.
    But RWWA are the ones at fault because they are the ones that don't follow, or enact procedure.
    They are in charge of the meeting, and it's them that are supposed to ensure all is correct, but of course when you have a stable full of halfwits.........
  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited November 2015
    You would think the Stipes would check that the barriers are in the correct place - wouldn't you ?

    Obviously not our blokes [-X

    Will they amend the distance on CRIS ?
  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    legless, i have said this on here a few times previously......

    john zucal told me after many complaints of mine, that they had the tracks all surveyed, and a checklist for the steward in charge of each meeting to follow, to ensure everything runs right.

    of course he may not have been telling me the truth, although i suspect he was, but since he has gone it is as bad as it has ever been.

    there are probably many more lately that i have not noticed, because they were within the parameters i have set.
    this one though had my computer screaming at me, so i knew something was badly wrong as soon as i entered the data.


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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    edited November 2015
    PR should just chop down all those trees in the background. It would be a lot easier >:)

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  • AmyquilAmyquil    250 posts
    carey said:

    if you look at the trees at left side of pictures and then look at the different barrier position..........how far wrong do we reckon????
    it's certainly a long way and considering how close the race was, entirely likely to have had a different result.

    they are both '1100' races with the rail out 6m.

    image

    Good on you, Carey.

    And Darren reckons people on "Social Media" shouldn't be criticising racing in WA.

    Just continue to bury your head in the sand.

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  • NgawyniNgawyni    786 posts
    Maybe they moved the trees  =))

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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    Legless said:

    :-? might be correct @carey   3 of them broke 34 for last 600m - must have really crawled early

    Magnifisio was the only other horse on the day to break 34

    that's another reason i knew it had to be wrong legless.
    if the race was really 1100m then the time from start to 600 was easily slowest of the day relative to race distance.
    of course that is assuming it was 500m stretch it out to 532(my guess and a guess is all it can be), then it is much more respectable, but still slow.
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