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  • RiversRivers    396 posts
    Ferris273 said:

    Is it just me or is Perth racing becoming boring...... I'm sick of seeing pink and white win everything...... Maybe vanilla essence is the secret......

    Elite is a "Champion"
  • magoo83magoo83    969 posts
    Would still rather own the 2nd horse
  • theketaminekidtheketaminekid    479 posts
    magoo83 said:

    Would still rather own the 2nd horse

    that is because you are a magoo
    =))
  • AquanitaAquanita    566 posts
    Well done Andrew, you isolated the quinella before the race.

    Credit where it's due.
  • GLAMOURGLAMOUR    877 posts

    And now maybe they will look at there selection process,definately horses there who shouldn't have been,1 finishing 18 Lenths from the winner,thats only one and others that should have been in unfortunately had to go to unsuitaablr races to try for a start in the Kingston Town,when is someone going to start to think about the owner and trainer,it just gets so frustrating the programeing for trainers,should have been a 1600 consolation race yesterday for ones who missed out on Railway,how about someone thinking about it.

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  • SHOVHOGSHOVHOG    1,792 posts
    edited November 2014
    Fancy Feet : Connections were disappointed .. Haha what were they expecting ?

    Mr Moet beat 2 home and Harvey said he was doing his best work on the line haha

    Who writes this comedy gold

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  • IronMikeIronMike    517 posts
    There was something not right with the cleaner in the tie ups mick burles kicking the back of the stall was a bit of a give away the horse looked very stirred up unlike moriarty 2 stalls up who looked like a Statue Relaxed the ultimate pro race horse

    The pictures speak the words there were some very sad faces In the cleaners stall including mick burles

    Over the fence in the pic of MIck I said good luck mick his reply was we might need more than luck
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,991 posts
    Are you saying there was something wrong with the horse prior to running and the connections were concerned ?

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  • SHOVHOGSHOVHOG    1,792 posts
    edited November 2014
    He fired up before the race but the camp was bloody confident. He was out the gate on bet fair because of his pre race shenanigans. Didn't have much hope from the start
  • BobbyDavisBobbyDavis    916 posts
    IronMike said:

    There was something not right with the cleaner in the tie ups mick burles kicking the back of the stall was a bit of a give away the horse looked very stirred up unlike moriarty 2 stalls up who looked like a Statue Relaxed the ultimate pro race horse

    The pictures speak the words there were some very sad faces In the cleaners stall including mick burles

    Over the fence in the pic of MIck I said good luck mick his reply was we might need more than luck

    Maybe the horse was just over the top and looking for a spell. Pretty common to see a horse dirty on the world in a bad frame of mind if they are about to get sent out one extra time
  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts

    Are you saying there was something wrong with the horse prior to running and the connections were concerned ?


    Don't blame me. I only used that Jedi mind trick on Sunline before Defier smashed her in the George Main Stakes. >:)
  • silkysilky    430 posts
    SHOVHOG said:

    Fancy Feet : Connections were disappointed .. Haha what were they expecting ?

    Mr Moet beat 2 home and Harvey said he was doing his best work on the line haha

    Who writes this comedy gold


    Bar Moriarty, MM ran home his last sectional better than any other horse carrying the same weight. Given he wasn't beaten all that far I wouldn't right him off going into the KT. FF's form going into the race wasn't overly bad, I would have thought they were entitled to be disappointed in the run. Going on its last run I probably wouldn't have thought it would have been beaten 181/4
  • IronMikeIronMike    517 posts

    Are you saying there was something wrong with the horse prior to running and the connections were concerned ?

    I'm saying what I saw an took photos off I observed him for a good twenty five minutes In his box he was not the same horse that I looked at very close quarters in the tie ups at flemington where he was totally relaxed looked a treat

    The camps demeanour was also totally different to flemington where they were full of smiles joking etc totally different to yesterday IMO they were obviously worried hardly talking to each other with worried looks I didn't see one smile or much humor

    I came back to see him Pre parade an he was worse an just not the same in demeanour as he was in the parade ring at Flemington just different

    I walked up to the main ring an he was just not himself or the horse I saw in the box an ring at flemington

    I went up to the members to watch the race an I knew me an everyone else had done there Dough before he ran I thought he was off but I'm no expert just a long time punters view who enjoys watching horses parade


    If I could have canceled my bets I would have on what i saw


    I just watched the Emirates again have a look at his action in that race then look at his action in the railway he never stretched out like he did in the Emirates his action was not the same

    Was it ascot it was he not right or just dick of Arnold thinking he's a greyhound ???

    Yet was still in the minors 100 out beaten less than 3 lengths by the winner he did not pack it in entirely I thought he would run last after he went out of the yard

    Anyone watching him who knows wayyyy more about horses than I ever will would have thought he's not happy jan was very fired up

    IMO the horse was off in comparison to seeing him
    Parade at flemington but that was my observation an recollection off him Emirates day

    I was also surprised no officials or vets were looking at him in the tie ups or pre parade ring he just did not look right an was fired up an was beaten by the time he was saddled up in my view

    But on the day he was not good enough new rider an new trainer in the Autum may see him win a nice race stay tuned

    All honours with the winner I was wtong the locals were too good simple as that . No sour grapes here Rommel made my day but there was something amiss IMO

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  • Faark you talk some rubbish PT

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  • BobbyDavisBobbyDavis    916 posts
    IronMike said:

    Are you saying there was something wrong with the horse prior to running and the connections were concerned ?

    I'm saying what I saw an took photos off I observed him for a good twenty five minutes In his box he was not the same horse that I looked at very close quarters in the tie ups at flemington where he was totally relaxed looked a treat

    The camps demeanour was also totally different to flemington where they were full of smiles joking etc totally different to yesterday IMO they were obviously worried hardly talking to each other with worried looks I didn't see one smile or much humor

    I came back to see him Pre parade an he was worse an just not the same in demeanour as he was in the parade ring at Flemington just different

    I walked up to the main ring an he was just not himself or the horse I saw in the box an ring at flemington

    I went up to the members to watch the race an I knew me an everyone else had done there Dough before he ran I thought he was off but I'm no expert just a long time punters view who enjoys watching horses parade


    If I could have canceled my bets I would have on what i saw


    I just watched the Emirates again have a look at his action in that race then look at his action in the railway he never stretched out like he did in the Emirates his action was not the same

    Was it ascot it was he not right or just dick of Arnold thinking he's a greyhound ???

    Yet was still in the minors 100 out beaten less than 3 lengths by the winner he did not pack it in entirely I thought he would run last after he went out of the yard

    Anyone watching him who knows wayyyy more about horses than I ever will would have thought he's not happy jan was very fired up

    IMO the horse was off in comparison to seeing him
    Parade at flemington but that was my observation an recollection off him Emirates day

    I was also surprised no officials or vets were looking at him in the tie ups or pre parade ring he just did not look right an was fired up an was beaten by the time he was saddled up in my view

    But on the day he was not good enough new rider an new trainer in the Autum may see him win a nice race stay tuned

    All honours with the winner I was wtong the locals were too good simple as that . No sour grapes here Rommel made my day but there was something amiss IMO

    Iron Mike I sincerely hope you are not gunning for the horse to be taken from his current trainer after all your pumping up about the guy and his generosity etc????
    Whilst it is highly likely that a high profile trainer will get the gig next prep, your mood towards the camp seems to have changed- perhaps because you did your moolah cold on a horse over the top. As is so often the case, the trainer and/or jockey cop the blame but I thought you were more open minded than that!

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  • hashhash    7,495 posts

    IronMike said:

    There was something not right with the cleaner in the tie ups mick burles kicking the back of the stall was a bit of a give away the horse looked very stirred up unlike moriarty 2 stalls up who looked like a Statue Relaxed the ultimate pro race horse

    The pictures speak the words there were some very sad faces In the cleaners stall including mick burles

    Over the fence in the pic of MIck I said good luck mick his reply was we might need more than luck

    Maybe the horse was just over the top and looking for a spell. Pretty common to see a horse dirty on the world in a bad frame of mind if they are about to get sent out one extra time
    it was an after thought for the trainer and I'm guessing PR did all they could to get The Cleaner over here to race in their carnival, trainer sounds like he got pressured to press on and bring TC West?
    Can bet you if he had his time over again the horse would have been spelled after the emirates maybe even after the cox plate but i'm sure he's learnt his lesson, fingers crossed the horse comes back bigger and better next prep

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  • IronMikeIronMike    517 posts
    edited November 2014
    hash said:

    IronMike said:

    There was something not right with the cleaner in the tie ups mick burles kicking the back of the stall was a bit of a give away the horse looked very stirred up unlike moriarty 2 stalls up who looked like a Statue Relaxed the ultimate pro race horse

    The pictures speak the words there were some very sad faces In the cleaners stall including mick burles

    Over the fence in the pic of MIck I said good luck mick his reply was we might need more than luck

    Maybe the horse was just over the top and looking for a spell. Pretty common to see a horse dirty on the world in a bad frame of mind if they are about to get sent out one extra time
    it was an after thought for the trainer and I'm guessing PR did all they could to get The Cleaner over here to race in their carnival, trainer sounds like he got pressured to press on and bring TC West?
    Can bet you if he had his time over again the horse would have been spelled after the emirates maybe even after the cox plate but i'm sure he's learnt his lesson, fingers crossed the horse comes back bigger and better next prep
    Mate it wasn't an after thought at the breakfast last week mick said he planned all along to run him in the railway if he went ok in the Emirates he did he was in the plane widely reported

    The railway was a million bucks why wouldn't they have s dip after its Emirates run

    Bobby I hope mick keeps the horse in his yard but those trips from tassie are arduous stabling him in melbourne sounds like a good plan

    Arnold has carved him up 3 times now time for s change but your right he was off I just posted that I backed the top 5 in the railway as I said TC had none from the tie ups they don't do pre race refunds all in otherwise if they did I would have been lining up after seeing him get into that state
  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,991 posts
    It wasn't the only carve up on the day, and not even the only Interstate horse that had its chances blown. But that's Racing.
  • PandoraPandora    225 posts
    Did they pay for him to come, just wondering
  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
    silky said:

    SHOVHOG said:

    Fancy Feet : Connections were disappointed .. Haha what were they expecting ?

    Mr Moet beat 2 home and Harvey said he was doing his best work on the line haha

    Who writes this comedy gold


    Bar Moriarty, MM ran home his last sectional better than any other horse carrying the same weight. Given he wasn't beaten all that far I wouldn't right him off going into the KT. FF's form going into the race wasn't overly bad, I would have thought they were entitled to be disappointed in the run. Going on its last run I probably wouldn't have thought it would have been beaten 181/4
    Moet hasnt won a race for 2 years now he is done and dusted ,Moriaty is the KT special knock out horse is Real Love but probably wont get a start
  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    Don't wrtie off Balmont Girl either...Got beaten by a brtilliant ride through a few gaps. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 3 of them in the first 4.
  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    Rommel will win the KT..... I hope he is at the same price! But I dont think so! Cleaned up with him on Sat!! :)
  • AndrewCarterAndrewCarter    2,171 posts
    Aquanita said:

    Well done Andrew, you isolated the quinella before the race.

    Credit where it's due.

    Thank you Aquanita it's nice to know that there are some on here who possess some semblance of grace and humility and will admit when they're wrong or acknowledge when someone has got it right despite previously disagreeing vehemently with them, from the rest there's been nothing but the sound of crickets :)

    The Railway got me out of a sizeable hole on the weekend that threatened to take the cream off another very good week as had several decent doubles and trebles going into Disposition which came unstuck to the Guineas and then had a decent bet on Disposition.

    So backing Elite Belle and Balmont Girl for good results plus the quinella multiple times ended up being a  huge comeback and put me just in front for the day.

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  • AndrewCarterAndrewCarter    2,171 posts
    Nice pics Damien
  • AndrewCarterAndrewCarter    2,171 posts
    By the way well done to Grant, Alana and the crew down there, they've done a super job with the mare, as for Pikey what can you say other than he's just a freak.
  • IronMikeIronMike    517 posts
    edited November 2014
    Andrew no one has answered me yet does Ernie manning actually go to the track I've never seen him on Raceday


    Well done mate on enjoying your passion congrats does this mean we get free racing an sports pics Im a collector of sports photos I don't sell them just for my home bar

  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    thought you were signing off for the day?  :-\"

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,495 posts
    hate to be paying his wages..... =))
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