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Interview with Eddie Rigg

West Australian Racing

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,991 posts
    Do they actually own Ascot? By legislated act of parliament, the WATC now know as Perth Racing, had a peppercorn lease. They owned the buildings but not the land.

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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    It is a pepercorn, i think they can only "sell back" to the govt. so it wont go on the "market"...
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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    Legless said:

    paraletic said:



    Im not sure anyone other than a leading certified property valuer could even guess that. All depends on what you can put on it.

    Obviously its worth what some-one will pay for it, just trying to get a feel for it's value.

    150 acres x $1.2mill and acre :O  Even if they sold it at 300k an acre, makes the 27mill required mentioned on the interview look like loose change!!

    #-o Certified Property Valuer - your figure will relate to who employs them - the seller, the buyer, the bank, Landgate or the family law court ~X(
    Lol u are so right!
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,495 posts
    as I said before, show me the deed that says PR own ascot land and all buildings.
    emphasis on the land.
    I understand, not having heard it, that FRK was scathing..they sold bullcreek, Helena vale etc and have nothing to show for it.
    I say again, show us the deeds for ascot....
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  • wedgewedge    269 posts
    the falcon said:

    as I said before, show me the deed that says PR own ascot land and all buildings.
    emphasis on the land.
    I understand, not having heard it, that FRK was scathing..they sold bullcreek, Helena vale etc and have nothing to show for it.
    I say again, show us the deeds for ascot....

    they have nothing to show for it because racing horses is not financially sustainable,  sale of assets is all that the club can do to keep the game going





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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited August 2014
    Damien Wyer said:

    Do they actually own Ascot? By legislated act of parliament, the WATC now know as Perth Racing, had a peppercorn lease. They owned the buildings but not the land.

    the falcon said:

    as I said before, show me the deed that says PR own ascot land and all buildings.
    emphasis on the land.
    I understand, not having heard it, that FRK was scathing..they sold bullcreek, Helena vale etc and have nothing to show for it.
    I say again, show us the deeds for ascot....

    Mr Rigg covers this - listen from 34.35 on
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,991 posts
    His opinion.
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited August 2014
    who had a win on the weekend - cert of title from www.landgate.wa.gov.au is not much @Rio :-\"

    70 Grandstand road ascot :-\"
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  • GilgameshGilgamesh    5,009 posts
    I like what Grant said, you cant just go on state wide radio and say something like we are looking into selling Ascot without first discussing it with the participants!

    Harness racing NSW sold Harold Park for 150 million dollars and moved out to Menangle, from a far it looks to be working. The club should look at talking to them and seeing how it has effected their financial position almost 4 years down the track.

    Of course that wouldn't have had the ramifications regarding the trainers living and working around the track.

    Also have seen the sale of Gloucester Park mentioned a few times, THE HARNESS CLUB own GP, it would be a bit like saying sell Ascot and fix up GP.
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  • PandoraPandora    225 posts
    $50 million and they still whinge
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    Gilgamesh said:

    I like what Grant said, you cant just go on state wide radio and say something like we are looking into selling Ascot without first discussing it with the participants!

    Harness racing NSW sold Harold Park for 150 million dollars and moved out to Menangle, from a far it looks to be working. The club should look at talking to them and seeing how it has effected their financial position almost 4 years down the track.

    Of course that wouldn't have had the ramifications regarding the trainers living and working around the track.

    Also have seen the sale of Gloucester Park mentioned a few times, THE HARNESS CLUB own GP, it would be a bit like saying sell Ascot and fix up GP.

    There are a lot of trainers that are not based at Ascot - Harrison, Warwick, Williams, Durrant, Smith, Mathews  etc etc- all in the Top 20.

    Change is inevitable - some ( particularly the Ascot based trainers) probably wont like it - others will embrace it with open arms.

    IMHO Ascot is a goat track - far too biased for quality racing. Have always wondered why they haven't built a horse race track there and now realise there is not room.

    If they intend on upgrading Belmont AND building an on track training facility somewhere ( Southern corridor was mentioned) then what valid reason is there for keeping Ascot?

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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    edited August 2014
    Also think eddie is way out of line talking about GP. He isnt on the committee there so he should shut his trap.
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  • AndrewCarterAndrewCarter    2,171 posts
    edited August 2014
    http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2014/02/14/3954545.htm

    Belmont Park is our focus

    I'm sorry I don't know how to properly post the radio interview itself on here but if you follow the link you should be able to find the interview.

    Go there to listen to more of emperor ted's spin, basically it's not our fault we didn't get enough money up front, gee ted but didn't you do such a genius job on the deal?

    You were the one who decided to snub the premier and risk the farm by dealing with a group well known for sitting on assets and not developing them and risking the industry's future on this deal not the industry.

    Any chance you will ever admit that you were wrong and not for the first time.

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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    the falcon said:

    indonesian billionaires make me quake in my boots.

    they'd buy and sell you and you would not know you are on the market.




    I remembered this posted on another thread ages ago. =)) =))
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  • AndrewCarterAndrewCarter    2,171 posts
    Anyone got a link to Fred Kersley's radio interview today I can't seem to find it
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,495 posts
    from the mouths of babes...... L-)

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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,495 posts
    nothing against Indonesian billionaires.....but you have to be up pretty early to beat them to the wor
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,495 posts
    ..oops...worm.
    they know more tricks than a dancing bear.

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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts

    18 months is a long time in WA!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd92cp4RiDk

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,991 posts
    This from the person who said a small minority group of people have been negative towards the proposed development and plans of Perth Racing.

    "$80-100M for a new grandstand and we can't justify that, so we are going to refurbish, as there is nothing wrong with the current grandstand and it has ticked all the boxes, so we are going to do that"

    "the cost benefit proved to knock it down and re-build would be fool hardy, and the money would be better spent in other areas"

    Of course this changed once they confirmed what was known by that small minority, that the grandstand was only fit to be demolished, and that a massive financial shortfall loomed on the horizon.

    So in the words of a senior Trainer yesterday at Belmont when discussing this matter, and the suggested sale of Ascot and the unification of Racing in Perth under one roof, he said they were f...... idiots and should be removed from office.

    I have had almost every member of the press contact me in the last 48 hours. One in particular felt uncomfortable, but he just came out and said that he was sorry for giving the allegations against me oxygen, and in fact they should have listened to an alternative line of thought. He was embarrassed that he had taken part in trying to denigrate my name in racing circles as he had been convinced by the sheer weight of numbers of the Committee, that I was a ratbag and a blight on racing.

    It's going to get very uncomfortable for that Committee in the weeks and months ahead. They have a hell of a lot of explaining to do, and nobody wants to listen to bullshit like in this video when they ask questions from now on.

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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    I'm very open minded and will attempt to stay that way, but only hearing one side of the argument on here.
    Can someone please explain to me why closing Ascot would be the folly of "f'n idiots" ?
    (Without the anti committee axe grinding)

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  • wedgewedge    269 posts
    Tivers said:

    I'm very open minded and will attempt to stay that way, but only hearing one side of the argument on here.

    Can someone please explain to me why closing Ascot would be the folly of "f'n idiots" ?
    (Without the anti committee axe grinding)
    coz that senior trainer obviously has to relocate as there was no industry consultation on the matter when there clearly should have been?

    or that senior trainer possibly just spent some $ building some brand new stables on site and cannot possibly get the return he has budgeted for?

    that senior trainer up until a couple of days ago thought ascot was owned by govt?
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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts

    Tivers, I'll go on record as saying it feel it would be great for the club and could have long term benefits for the industry if handled right..

    I could now go on and write a novel explaining why.. But I don't have the patience or time to do it.. And don't want to be arguing about it for the next week..

    But refer to the ...."IF HANDLED RIGHT" part of my statement.

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  • AndrewCarterAndrewCarter    2,171 posts
    edited August 2014
    It would be nice if the same journo's had the integrity to apologise to me for swallowing all the bullshit and ghostwriting that disgusting Inside Cover article and in general doing the dirty work for those involved but they again showed their true colors and their complete lack of ethics and integrity as no such apology was forthcoming and I certainly won't be hanging out for a phone call from those involved. Glad to see you got a long overdue apology though Damien.
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  • AndrewCarterAndrewCarter    2,171 posts
    edited August 2014
    Thanks Rio for posting that interview that Wes conducted with Emperor Ted, it speaks for itself.

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  • sonnysonny    1,552 posts
    For what it's worth. I listened to Mr. Rigg's interview and will say that he is not your typical committe man.He wants people to know what is happening but he is out of his comfort zone. H e is more likley to be playing naked pool at the football club...
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    wedge said:

    Tivers said:

    I'm very open minded and will attempt to stay that way, but only hearing one side of the argument on here.

    Can someone please explain to me why closing Ascot would be the folly of "f'n idiots" ?
    (Without the anti committee axe grinding)
    coz that senior trainer obviously has to relocate as there was no industry consultation on the matter when there clearly should have been?

    or that senior trainer possibly just spent some $ building some brand new stables on site and cannot possibly get the return he has budgeted for?

    that senior trainer up until a couple of days ago thought ascot was owned by govt?
    Ok, so three (quite reasonable) gripes there - but still no reasons
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  • TiversTivers    7,720 posts
    RIO said:

    Tivers, I'll go on record as saying it feel it would be great for the club and could have long term benefits for the industry if handled right..

    I could now go on and write a novel explaining why.. But I don't have the patience or time to do it.. And don't want to be arguing about it for the next week..

    But refer to the ...."IF HANDLED RIGHT" part of my statement.

    You don't know it would be great (although acknowledge the word you used was "feel"), but you are open to the possibility that it may be worth investigating.
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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts

    FEEL...FEEL..FEEL....Its the out, along with the....if handled right..

    IMO it is definitely worth investigating...

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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,991 posts
    https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/racing/a/24651281/mp-lets-fly-at-ascot-idea/


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