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Sujet vs Petrol Power

West Australian Racing
TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
edited December 2013 West Australian Racing
Here's the rematch, Sujet vs Petrol Power over 1400m in the Sir Ernest Lee Steere Classic this weekend.
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    What's your head-to-head market, Diva?
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    Not sure, but i think i would have Sujet on top based on their last runs. 

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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    Northpace nominated for the +72 1400m race also. Would love to know who Kersley thinks is the better horse between Northpace & Ihtsahymn?
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  • CarlosaCarlosa    1,287 posts

    You would expect more improvement from Sujet, surely, both fitness wise and experience.  Anyway, would be a brave man to suggest it's a straight up two horse race.

    Looking forward to the Aquinita too, I like seeing the 3yo progress through the distances to see who cuts it over a trip and who doesn't...

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  • mrwisemanmrwiseman    25 posts
    Not sure, but i think i would have Sujet on top based on their last runs. 

    Diva it was sujets first start ever in a listed race against a good horse who has had how many starts?
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    If Douglas Whyte comes back to ride it I know which horse I'll be backing 8-}
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  • mrwisemanmrwiseman    25 posts
    therealkramer said:

    If Douglas Whyte comes back to ride it I know which horse I'll be backing 8-}

    You are most definitely right you can't ride Hong Kong here
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    mrwiseman said:

    Not sure, but i think i would have Sujet on top based on their last runs. 

    Diva it was sujets first start ever in a listed race against a good horse who has had how many starts?



    and whats your point? 
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,969 posts
    The Diva said:

    mrwiseman said:

    Not sure, but i think i would have Sujet on top based on their last runs. 

    Diva it was sujets first start ever in a listed race against a good horse who has had how many starts?



    and whats your point? 
    I can only assume they think that the horse will improve. The point really is if Petrol Power gets the trip, as he is vulnerable past 1200M and when previously tested, he paddled at the finish. This week he meets Sujet 2kg better than the last meeting and is race fit, if not over the top. If Sujet can't get past him this week, I doubt he ever will. 

    This is a very weak edition of the Lee Steere Classic, it's Gr 3 status is nothing more than a practical joke. 
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    I think you hit the nail on the head Damien, if Petrol Power over races like it did last time at 1400m, Sujet will have the edge. 
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,969 posts
    Petrol Power jumps from wide comes across and sits on the rump of Sujet, and then puts him to the sword with 200M to go. Nothing else in this field will be able to match the cruising speed of either of these two and Sujet is on a hiding to nothing by trying to take on the more experienced horse. There are much easier races for a maiden. Patrick Carbery has been nominated to ride.
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    edited December 2013
    I wonder if the punter who had $3300 on Sujet will back up this week? I would also love to know whether the bet was placed before markets were set or the punter asked for a quote?
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  • Raff_2000Raff_2000    802 posts
    I'm certainly not saying it's a race in 2, but in terms of comparing Sujet to Petrol Power, P.P gets in a lot better at the weights but he has drawn barrier 7. On the other hand Sujet has drawn barrier 3 which will give Patty Carbery every chance of giving the horse a favourable passage throughout whilst keeping P.P to the outside of him.

    So in this scenario it looks to be 1 set all with the deciding set to follow. We can look forward to seeing how it all develops.
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  • Thoroly_BreadThoroly_Bread    2,348 posts
    Damien Wyer said:

    Petrol Power jumps from wide comes across and sits on the rump of Sujet, and then puts him to the sword with 200M to go. Nothing else in this field will be able to match the cruising speed of either of these two and Sujet is on a hiding to nothing by trying to take on the more experienced horse. There are much easier races for a maiden. Patrick Carbery has been nominated to ride.

    How much did they pay for Sujet?
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  • TheDivaTheDiva    13,248 posts
    $52k
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  • TSSTSS    1,401 posts
    edited December 2013
    Doesn't Damien own or bred or chose Petrol Power at a yearling sale? I thought someone on here does. I love the horse because of that association.
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  • therealkramertherealkramer    8,008 posts
    edited December 2013
    Sujet had to make two runs in that race and wasn't settled outside the leader, super eighty eight until the halfway mark and yet he's been beaten in the shadows of the post by a horse who had the cold drop on him. The 2kg weight swing is worth a length maybe a length and a half at best.

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  • Thoroly_BreadThoroly_Bread    2,348 posts
    edited December 2013
    The Diva said:

    $52k

    Bargain, i think Sujet will have him this weekend.
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,969 posts
    edited December 2013
    I purchased Petrol Power on behalf of Sam Trimboli along with his other runner on Saturday, Resetgold (if she gets a start). Petrol Power topped the 2012 Magic Millions Sale at $240,000, so including insurance and GST, he was about $273,000 to get home. To date he has earnt $313,650. 

    Resetgold on the other hand only cost $22,000 but her return is quite modest at $85,985. Hopefully there is another win for her before she goes to stud next year.

    I'm more than happy to list the horses I have purchased in the last four years on behalf of clients. Only had the one glaring dud at this point. If folks are interested.

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  • Piston_BrokePiston_Broke    2,047 posts
    The Dud being the early runner you stole in Adelaide?
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,969 posts
    Piston_Broke said:

    The Dud being the early runner you stole in Adelaide?

    Do you know something that I don't ?

    That would be a surprise.
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  • Piston_BrokePiston_Broke    2,047 posts
    TSS said:

    Doesn't Damien own or bred or chose Petrol Power at a yearling sale? I thought someone on here does. I love the horse because of that association.

    Sam Trimboli owns him, Jimmy Taylor chose him and Damien signed for him and Jason Brown rides him ;)

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  • TSSTSS    1,401 posts
    $273,000 wow, it's an expensive hobby that is for sure. Don't know how the industry can survive when horses are priced like that.
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  • Raff_2000Raff_2000    802 posts
    TSS said:

    $273,000 wow, it's an expensive hobby that is for sure. Don't know how the industry can survive when horses are priced like that.

    And on top of that it's owned by Sam alone as far as I know. You'd think at a price like that, the horse would be leased out to a syndicate of at least 10 people.
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  • LeglessLegless    5,108 posts
    edited December 2013
    TSS said:

    $273,000 wow, it's an expensive hobby that is for sure. Don't know how the industry can survive when horses are priced like that.

    Owner is probably at break even - it was said somewhere before here that training fees are not even a consideration - to burn 20-25k a year does not hurt the pocket.

    Play a much different game to me, some like fast boats, some fast cars , some fast women , some racehorses - and some lucky mutha's enjoy all of 'em =)) <:-P

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  • TheodorTheodor    199 posts
    I'm pretty happy with Petrol Power, I own his dam, Diamonds and Dust, with Yarradale. Had a touch of luck as also now own dams of Ithsahym (Umatune also with Yarradale) and Saint Bro (Parole). Before anyone jumps down my throat, yes I know this should be in the breeding section but given credit Damian is taking for PP just taking his lead. I did not breed any of these classy 3 yr olds but lucky enough to secure their dams.

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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    traipsing around in the shadows of Damo.......is it that hard to get in the limelight Theo?????

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  • TheodorTheodor    199 posts
    Don be nasty Rio. Was thinking of buying you and the lads a beer this Saturday!

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  • RIORIO    14,902 posts
    i wasn't...you've seen nasty from me its a lot worse than that!!!!!

    as you now have a dim light on you who did you send the girls too...same order as above...will guess at least two went to FG??
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  • TheodorTheodor    199 posts
    Diamonds and Dust - can't remember but either War Chant or Frost Giant
    Umatune - likely retired. Have a couple of quality fillies on the ground. We are keeping the War Chant yearling filly. First time ever we are keeping a yearling and not offering for sale, but this mare is getting old
    Parole - Frost Giant, very good cross based on pedigree analysis (or at least what the computer says)

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