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Belmont Saturday 18th June

West Australian Racing

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  • RodentRodent    7,457 posts
    The only way the interference would not have occurred is if Pike had followed the rules and stopped riding to straighten his mount. Would Morant have won if Pike did this? Perhaps Pikey knew that he wouldn't so elected to bend the rules.
    What about Dawn Raider at Narrogin? It lost the race despite coming from behind and bolting in.
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  • DarkDark    909 posts
    Yes perhaps, but then its up to the stewards to do something about it in the form of a suspension.
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  • dungydungy    9,278 posts
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    Yes perhaps, but then its up to the stewards to do something about it in the form of a suspension.

    Suspension ??? from the Morant ride ?? fair dinkum he never hit the horse if anything did a great job in trying to straighten it up on one reign :roll:
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  • DarkDark    909 posts
    Me neither dungy.

    What i'm saying is, deciding the result of a protest, and deciding whether a jockey caused interference or not are by no means the same thing.
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  • mcginty71nzmcginty71nz    195 posts
    I reckon you should both keep going. Surely the carpal tunnel syndrome will get you both eventually.
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    Anyone got any thoughts about the protest in the last? Just suprised it hasnt been mentioned :shock:
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  • slipatiptomeslipatiptome    3,351 posts
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    Anyone got any thoughts about the protest in the last? Just suprised it hasnt been mentioned :shock:

    Carey & Dark Target have lodged a double protest against H Bomber for late interference.... though it may have occurred after they had finished. :)
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    haha good ol slip.
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  • TheFunksterTheFunkster    3,840 posts
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    Anyone got any thoughts about the protest in the last? Just suprised it hasnt been mentioned :shock:

    Was there a protest?
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  • DecDec    147 posts
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    anyone else that was oncourse yesterday notice how good a job Richard Bell did calling the meeting

    thought it was excellent in pre-race, during and post race

    he even called out the approximate quaddie results before the last

    I dont think this is intended to be sarcastic? I was in Melb over the weekend, found a tab to watch one race (race 2) to watch one horse (Striking Guru). He called it Kenbon about 4 or 5 times!
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  • Unknown
    that was probably the only mistake he made all day

    and if you watch a replay again you will know why

    I was sitting in the grandstand and honestly it was very hard to see the horses when they were in the straight until they were right in front of you
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  • DecDec    147 posts
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    that was probably the only mistake he made all day

    and if you watch a replay again you will know why

    I was sitting in the grandstand and honestly it was very hard to see the horses when they were in the straight until they were right in front of you

    As I say I only watched one race. I listened to the last too but my recollection is a bit scratchy :D
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  • BookersBookers    529 posts
    Reading the stewards report and interested to read the report about Esroh. While many probably thought it would finish last, it has beaten 3 runners home and has been beaten just over 6L in a 2000m race. I was then surprised to read the following.

    Trainer Ms K. Davis was advised that the gelding would not be permitted to race at Saturday prime Metropolitan meetings until it shows an improvement in its form.

    There were then 2 further runners, Darkriver Doll and Danelez, that were also given the same rites. While I agree with these 2, I have seen plenty that have been much less competitive than Esroh who are continually allowed to go around in similar events. I reckon you could find 10-15 runners a meeting. While I am all for uncompetitive types not being allowed to race at these meetings, I wouldn't have thought this was a prime example.
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
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    Reading the stewards report and interested to read the report about Esroh. While many probably thought it would finish last, it has beaten 3 runners home and has been beaten just over 6L in a 2000m race. I was then surprised to read the following.

    Trainer Ms K. Davis was advised that the gelding would not be permitted to race at Saturday prime Metropolitan meetings until it shows an improvement in its form.

    There were then 2 further runners, Darkriver Doll and Danelez, that were also given the same rites. While I agree with these 2, I have seen plenty that have been much less competitive than Esroh who are continually allowed to go around in similar events. I reckon you could find 10-15 runners a meeting. While I am all for uncompetitive types not being allowed to race at these meetings, I wouldn't have thought this was a prime example.


    i had a chuckle when i read that about esroh.
    the top weight gets its marching orders. :lol:
    the problem for this horse is its rating is too high, so that there are bugger all options for it.
    the lowest class at p1 or city midweek is mostly a rb72 and that is all it's eligible for, so its got to head way out woop woop or toss it in.
    also what rating would it get for the country? another thing wrong with having 2 ratings.....how do connections figure what weight it gets????
    let alone people like me that are very interested in handicapping.
    ratings WERE a good way of having transparency in handicapping, but that is no longer the case with this city /country nonsense.
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  • BobbyDavisBobbyDavis    916 posts
    I totally agree that the stewards call to basically bar Esroh from metro Saturday meets is terrible. The horse is a stayer and was having its 3rd run back from a spell. How the hell else is a trainer supposed to get a stayer into form? Pathetic call by the stewrds and demonstrates their lack of knowledge and understanding of their chosen 'profession' (and I use the term 'profession' VERY loosely.

    There are definitely plenty of horses running weekly in races that they shouldn't even be allowed to run in once, let alone continually, who don't get barred.

    And there are plenty of horses who should never be allowed to run in feature races but they do... so that its a good field size and then there is more punting $.... but what about the connections of the horses who SHOULD be in the race who have to navigate their way around these crabs or cop trouble in the run when that horse can't run the last 600m in less than 39 seconds and they drop back through the field? Too bad, they'll always get a run.
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  • thefalconthefalcon    20,471 posts
    Well said.... :?
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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Where's the criteria in writing? Without looking it up, I'll bet the infamous phrase 'stewards discretion' is mentioned. :roll:

    Not having a go at this bloke, just using as a precedent, HTF can Esroh cop that treatment in reference to this record which was seemingly unchecked for numerous gallopers

    http://www.rwwa.com.au/cris/trainer.aspx?trainer=581264&max=50
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