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The Other Ascot Review 10/11/18

West Australian Racing
pikerpiker    404 posts
West Australian Racing
It is a super day tomorrow; great horses and plenty of options for a punt.
You may, like me, coupling into the Railway with Galaxy Star and/or the Winterbottom with Enticing star.

Anyway R/1 Dance Music is surprisingly short here at 3.0; and , yes I am going for her. The stewards noted she was cantankerous on the way to the start; sounds like Get the Vibe before she won at her  next start after such a performance. Are we allowed to blame hormones nowadays? Her form before that was just great with really good sectionals.I will put in Driftstar as a saver and leave out the Casey family horse Pablo ( I keep paying for leaving out the Casey horses).

R/2 ILWP looks a class above them. But i will put in One Short too; goes well fresh and the trial looked great.

R/3 I left out the topweight last time and he seemed to dominate Five Degrees in size and stamina.
The Missisippi horse beat AKOP last week and again I suffered badly  (there seems a pattern here). I just don't like the sudden step up in distance.
I will put the topweight in front and have a saver on Brothers Keeper.

R/4 I thought Kate Witten let Peter Hall out to save damage to all  nearby last run.but then found herself 3 deep; was a grand effort. I am hoping she is rewarded for her good deed tomorrow and the Harvey team deserve it too.

R/5 Yes I have to stick with Royal Star. Some horses just do not like Northam and she was a little bit unlucky. I am hoping this is her day and that she will go on to the Perth Cup.

R/6 Well in theory this is the big chance for ES to be beaten. Look at the time they ran  when Man Booker beat Great Shot over 1400m.
I am just hoping that her ability to regularly go under 33 for the last 600m might get her home.
I must say it is unusual to go from 1200m to 14000m and then back again to 1200m. Many horses just cannot handle the difference; remember Takedown winning in Sydney over 1200m brilliantly; then failing twice over 1400m and then back to 1200m and won the Winterbottom!

R/7 I am going Nos 1,2 and 3 here and I cannot separate them. Maybe the topweight has not come back like previous great form but you cannot leave him out. The Chix horse has improved in leaps and bounds. And of course I really hope the Harvey's horse runs on hard at the end.

R/8 I am back on Ouqba Jack ; was super last time when caught wide.
I will put in Admiral Promo as a definite back up.
Rare Coin and Master Pearl are 2 outsiders with chances.

I might start taking some all ups into GS and ES in the big races to place as I have some wins going in already.
Let's hope the best horses win; I feel I have a good barrier draw tomorrow.
All the Best.
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Comments

  • ChelseaChelsea    1,369 posts
    Best for tomorrow hopefully
    Brothers Keeper
    Man Booker
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  • YankeeYankee    306 posts
    Someone mentioned Enticing Star was in season and will have to wear a blanket to the stalls can someone confirm this or have been bullshitted too,not unusual!
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  • tonytony    2,436 posts
    Is correct @Yankee. Was tweeted by RWWA this morning

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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    I agree with Master Pearl in the last, have backed it in multis already.
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  • DillingerDillinger    60 posts
    My interests ...
    R1 Driftstar - won well last start
    R2 Sovereign Trade - Jockey in form
    R3 Salon Du Cheval - horse & jockey in form
    R4 Stageman - Jocks off to the Singapore stage tmrw
    R5 Missile Launch - Jockey goes BANG
    R6 Enticing Star - Horse & Jock
    R7 Final Hearing - Dong Dong Dong!
    R8 Rogan Scent - Tinker tonka Taylor

    Good Luck to the Punters ...
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  • YankeeYankee    306 posts
    tony said:

    Is correct @Yankee. Was tweeted by RWWA this morning

    Well if thats correct i will give her a miss as if she is anything like my human nag how she may act could range from loving to absolutely mental!

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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    Here's mine fwiw

    Pablo's poem
    In Love with Paris
    Five degrees
    Stageman
    Cappo Doro
    Enticing star
    True attraction
    Master pearl
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  • chocchoc    789 posts
    Do these shenanigans happen in Black Type races elsewhere?
    Or just the back blocks of Perth?
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,969 posts
    Was the race broadcast on Sky 2 or Sky Central ?
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  • tonytony    2,436 posts
    It was certainly on central
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,969 posts
    tony said:

    It was certainly on central

    OK thanks, I had it running on Sky 1 in the background on my computer awaiting the restart and then just heard results and the mention of late scratchings
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    What a fucking debacle for quaddie players.

    I had 4-5-7-8 in the first leg, gave Missile.Launch no chance originally, then I have cop it as the sub on 3 out of 4 runners.

    Bullshit, should be money returned on dead combinations, instead I have to take it in the A and move on.

    This is a problem
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  • DamienWyerDamienWyer    7,969 posts
    What a good Jockey Lucy Warwick has become

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  • chocchoc    789 posts
    When’s the last time three Cerise and White runners fill the back three spots in a Group Race?
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  • ThunderstruckThunderstruck    7,696 posts
    edited November 2018
    More to the point how overrated was Enticing Star...not at all surprised me!
    Congrats to the Gatting guys he mowed them down nicely, few went plainly imo or has the winner grown a leg?!
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    DamienWyer said:

    What a good Jockey Lucy Warwick has become



    she has always been good, despite what some may think.

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  • BlacksAFakeBlacksAFake    2,379 posts
    Enticing Star in season,betting drift,should be scratched
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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    DamienWyer said:

    What a good Jockey Lucy Warwick has become


    i love her. She did a great job today.
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    Hmm not a good day at all for the cerose and white. The problem in race 5 was the blind fold was.left on Royal star !!!

    They'd want to get it right when we are on showcase in 2 weeks.

    Peters probably wins every race on the card haha
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  • H-BOMBERH-BOMBER    10,567 posts
    Wow just watched the Lee Steered replay. Gatting smashed them today

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  • NgawyniNgawyni    786 posts
    Interesting to see what rating Gatting gets. 

    Similar to Ranger who won the Lee Steere as a 98 rater (like Gatting) in 2011 beating Grand Nirvana (113) and Waratah's Secret (112). Ranger went from 98 to 110 as a result. 

    If Gatting goes to 110 he'll probably have to carry 57.5 in the Railway giving Galaxy Star 4.5 kgs (assuming Material Man rating 112 is the topweight with 58.5).

    Ranger won the Lee Steere by 2 lengths and Man Booker (108) and Great Shot (109) aren't as highly rated as the horses Ranger beat, so Gatting should get 4-6 points less. If Gatting goes to 106 or less, he'll carry about 55.5 or less in the Railway.


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  • RodentRodent    7,457 posts
    I thought WFA wins were free from a penalty going into major handicaps or is that just a thing of the past?
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  • careycarey    6,424 posts
    be a bit hard to give it a penalty when it hasn't got a weight yet.

    i think ngawyni is about right, or maybe even a bit more than he reckons.
    wfa and ratings rarely match, but it's beaten horses on level weights with higher rating so it will pay a price.
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  • GLAMOURGLAMOUR    872 posts
    carey said:

    be a bit hard to give it a penalty when it hasn't got a weight yet.

    i think ngawyni is about right, or maybe even a bit more than he reckons.
    wfa and ratings rarely match, but it's beaten horses on level weights with higher rating so it will pay a price.
    Just looking it over,who rides him in Railway, Pike,Parnham,Warwick,all committed,Pateman wont make weight,anyway he has jumped ship to Lindsay Smith,so who does that leave for Gatting,maybe Staeck,cant use Tayla Stone being a apprentice,perhaps Noske.be enteresting.
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  • hashhash    7,495 posts
    Noske would have the pick of Bob's second stringers you'd think (either him or Chris.P) 
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  • GLAMOURGLAMOUR    872 posts
    hash said:

    Noske would have the pick of Bob's second stringers you'd think (either him or Chris.P) 

    You are right there,really doesn't leave a lit of top liners,especially with top line jockeys thin,with Brad Parnham and Lee Newman still out,i guess it will work itself out.
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  • GLAMOURGLAMOUR    872 posts
    GLAMOUR said:

    hash said:

    Noske would have the pick of Bob's second stringers you'd think (either him or Chris.P) 

    You are right there,really doesn't leave a lot of top liners,especially with top line jockeys thin,with Brad Parnham and Lee Newman still out,i guess it will work itself out.

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  • GilgameshGilgamesh    5,008 posts
    GLAMOUR said:

    carey said:

    be a bit hard to give it a penalty when it hasn't got a weight yet.

    i think ngawyni is about right, or maybe even a bit more than he reckons.
    wfa and ratings rarely match, but it's beaten horses on level weights with higher rating so it will pay a price.
    Just looking it over,who rides him in Railway, Pike,Parnham,Warwick,all committed,Pateman wont make weight,anyway he has jumped ship to Lindsay Smith,so who does that leave for Gatting,maybe Staeck,cant use Tayla Stone being a apprentice,perhaps Noske.be enteresting.



    Should have the pick of the nation surely? D Lane???

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  • paraleticparaletic    3,750 posts
    edited November 2018
    id assume lane would ride that thing that won in melb yesterday if it comes over

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  • darkshinesdarkshines    2,837 posts
    Koko calls in his favour surely
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