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savethegame · December 2016

dougie got it wrong,definitely didn't fulfill his obligation to the punting public to ride his horse out to the line, all that's left is the penalty amount, think 3 months is warranted.

therealkramer · December 2016

spinking said:
Will he be charged with failing to ride it out?

I could have been mistaken for thinking the pontiff was back from suspension early seeing the horse's rider drop their hands before the line :-\"

brady · December 2016

Not a good look

brady · December 2016

brady said:
Def a boo boo
Cost him the race that's for sure
Let's hope the Stewards
Show some Balls !
Think he forgot where the finishing line was ?

therealkramer · December 2016

Somewhere Lule Nolen is shaking his head and saying "there but for the grace of god, go I"

detonator · December 2016

brady said:
Not a good look

"Not a good look" because the closeup slow mo showed he did have a look at Damien Lane and did not continue to ride his mount out.
At least Luke Nolan shook BC up a few strides before the line.
Dougie should get 6 months, but for promotional relationships he will get a slap on the wrist.

therealkramer · December 2016

@detonator You could argue that it was too close to the line to make a difference though. In Black Caviar's case she actually throttled down when Nolen eased. He would have been tarred and feathered if she'd got beat. Moody was visible upset.

Fastmoney · December 2016

Douglas Whyte charged with failing to ride Scales Of Justice out,
inquiry adjourned to allow connections to see additional replay angles.

detonator · December 2016

Fastmoney said:
Douglas Whyte charged with failing to ride Scales Of Justice out,
inquiry adjourned to allow connections to see additional replay angles.

I notice that all today's race replays on cris show the normal close up slow mo of the finish at the completion of the race. Except for the Kingston Town. ????
Too hot too handle ???
Smells of a likely cover up.
Glad I still have it on IQ because next time someone tries to tell me the sport is clean, I just push the button on the remote control.

Ridersonthestorm33 · December 2016

It looked almost as if he mistook where the winning post was. He knew Stratum Star was coming didn't make sense to stop riding...unless he thought the winning post had been reached. :-??

curmudgeon · December 2016

Doug the Million Dollar Mug

Even Rhys McLeod rode through the line........ both times around

H-BOMBER · December 2016

The post race replays are on CRIS

Thank you Yoshi in the last, sounds like DMc got out of jail by the call!

Ridersonthestorm33 · December 2016

Did it cost Scales Of Justice another Group One ? I'm yes. Think about 60-40 it did. Interested if anybody thinks that Stratum Star was still going to win. :-?

detonator · December 2016

H-BOMBER said:
The post race replays are on CRIS

But no close up slow mo finish of the Kingston Town. Camera must have failed.

tom · December 2016

should get at least 6 months end of story. And what about the improvement of Silverstream oops sorry its BOBS

H-BOMBER · December 2016

detonator said:

H-BOMBER said:
The post race replays are on CRIS

But no close up slow mo finish of the Kingston Town. Camera must have failed.

Sorry I meant it's on the cris home pages, not on the days racing page.

http://www.rwwa.com.au/home/racing/post-race-interviews.html

detonator · December 2016

I counted 7 strides prior to reaching the line where Whyte was looking at Lane and or the Weir coloured blinkers. He used the whip 3 times on the first 3 of those strides then put it away whilst still looking at the other horse. It appeared he wasn't interested in looking at the post. If he was riding the horse out with the whip then he could be excused for not visually looking for the line. I can't help but reiterate it appeared he was more interested in Weirs horse than the post.

thefalcon · December 2016

a $5000 fine.....that's it!

Notapuntas · December 2016

Couldn't watch the replays on Tabtouch but could on cris. Looks suss. I was on the winner and had my bonus bet on it too. To be honest would rather the Smith stable and S.o.j get both G1's than me get a few $$

britbrat · December 2016

If you owned Scales Of Justice would you think you got a fair go.

$5000 fine Falcon.You are being sarcastic surely.

Its a $400,000 rob the way i see it and to disqualify Daniel Pearce for 6 months is a disgrace.

Based on that sentence Whyte has to get at least 6 months.

frenc11 · December 2016

detonator said:

ColourfulRD said:
He stopped riding 3 strides 4 the post, probably wouldn't have won, but fact is he stopped riding, looked like he was all set to give a wave and realised there was further to go. Surely the 2 sets of Rules will come in here.

Don't be influenced by the free grog across the bar. !!!
Surely you can find about 2 inches by one more crack of the whip and pushing the horses head down. But hey I am not a jockey.

jimmy cassidy or mick dittman would of held on to win , of that i am certain , i will never forget pumper getting pennyweight point past the post in the WFA lee steere over double blue

trooper · December 2016

If its only a $5000 fine hand your job in stewards. They are the reason perth racing is a disgrace to start off with. Can stop ride in 1 of our biggest group 1s yet doug has to much of a repuation for these jokers to do anything. Gods sake hope this was a joke and stewards actually did something coz apparantly even weir put more on the bar than these guys could dish penalties. Stewards should clarify here coz its a joke

Rodent · December 2016

Wow, break the rules and cost owners hundreds of thousands and punters even more. Fine a man worth millions $5000? That has got to be a joke. He'd pay more than that for a couch. Where is the deterrent?

therealkramer · December 2016

@Rodent I don't envy the stewards at all-they either slap Whyte with a lettuce leaf and punters who backed the runner up will be livid or they throw the book at the South African and risk attracting another world class jockey to their carnival. International incident looming.

Rodent · December 2016

therealkramer said:
@Rodent I don't envy the stewards at all-they either slap Whyte with a lettuce leaf and punters who backed the runner up will be livid or they throw the book at the South African and risk attracting another world class jockey to their carnival. International incident looming.

WA is using the lettuce leaf approach because they are scared of not being able to attract riders. Understandable BUT are there any jockeys in the world who would be worried about going to Perth because you might get time for dropping your hands and getting beaten a nose?

Seriously? That'd be like saying I won't travel to America because if I murder someone I might get the death penalty!

therealkramer · December 2016

Watching the slow-mo replay on Thoroughbred Weekly on Sky this morning Whyte actually celebrates and yells out in 'victory' when he stops racing-the way Bossy used to do L-)

therealkramer · December 2016

Rodent said:

therealkramer said:
@Rodent I don't envy the stewards at all-they either slap Whyte with a lettuce leaf and punters who backed the runner up will be livid or they throw the book at the South African and risk attracting another world class jockey to their carnival. International incident looming.
WA is using the lettuce leaf approach because they are scared of not being able to attract riders. Understandable BUT are there any jockeys in the world who would be worried about going to Perth because you might get time for dropping your hands and getting beaten a nose?
Seriously? That'd be like saying I won't travel to America because if I murder someone I might get the death penalty!

If he got 6 months-although I doubt he'll get anywhere near that long-i think it might stop them coming. He's guilty regardless of his plea. It's the severity of his punishment that is important now. No one is talking murder anyway. I think a more apt analogy would be getting 12 months jail(the max term is 15yrs!) for having a couple of esctasy tablets in bali-Michelle Leslie was lucky she only got three months!

TheDiva · December 2016

where does it say he only got $5k fine?

Stewards report still says the hearing was adjourned.

There was a thread about celebrating when the Oaks winner stood up and took a bow (Avdulla) a long way before the post.

I wondered how long it would be before someone buggered up their "early crow"

the answer is... not long...

savethegame · December 2016

The only thing that would stop them coming,is if the prizemoney dropped.The stewards control racing, hope they don't succumb to his ambassador for w.a. and a champion, his 2nd home jaragon and pressure from above to alter the correct penalty.What does adjourned to allow connections to view other replays got do with it outside of trying to convince them how much money he has cost them.Blindsiding the public in any sport, days have long gone with everyone having the same access to particular incidents.

carey · December 2016

savethegame said:
What does adjourned to allow connections to view other replays got do with it outside of trying to convince them how much money he has cost them.Blindsiding the public in any sport, days have long gone with everyone having the same access to particular incidents.

didn't consider that, very good point.
it's basically irrelevant twaddle from them

G'day Punter!

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