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warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    641 posts
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What has Mobile racing done world wide to make our industry grow and become better?.
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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts
    warrenrobinson said:

    What has Mobile racing done world wide to make our industry grow and become better?.


    more predictable outcomes at the start of the races, the last thing I want as a punter or as a participant is having the outcome of my bet or horse i train/own determined by one man's ability to release them correctly and fairly, i mean there is a reason standing starts have been phased out over time

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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    641 posts
    What has the grading of trainers and drivers done to make our industry grow and become better?.

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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts
    What has looking back to the past ever done to help any industry become better

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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    3,348 posts
    Re the 24 reports state by sate 

    Typical trotting - they are very reluctant to give financial numbers - except NSW of cpourse - said it was a $1.5 million loss and turnover decreased by $111 million
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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    3,348 posts

    Further to that - NSW said YTD  so far in 25 financial year ( at the time of the 24 report  being  re;leased ) turnover for 25 year was down another 11% and they are now budgetting for a nearly 7 million loss in the 25 year . 

    The said a deficit of that magnitude can be managed because of their financial mgt the prior 4 years - and that they still have 38 million in the kitty - future fund etc. But you wouldnt want to have too many 7 million annual  dollar losses otherwise that 38 million will evaporate pretty quickly 

    At least NSW put the hard actual numbers on the table - they were the only ones - Victoria said they had severe financial headwinds and that was about it from the other states 

    Good luck getting or sighting a Profit and Loss Statement and Balance Sheet from WA Trotting


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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    641 posts
    What has Harness Racing Australia achieved to make our industry grow and become better?.
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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts
    warrenrobinson said:

    What has Harness Racing Australia achieved to make our industry grow and become better?.


    Nothing, but no point turning to the past in order to find a solution for the future , harness racing biggest issue is its inability to evolve
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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    641 posts
    What has RWWA achieved in the 26 years of it's inception to make our industry grow and become better?.
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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    641 posts
    What has the lack of integrity in Australian Harness Racing achieved to help grow and make our industry better?.
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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts
    What's complaining achieved to help grow and make our industry better ?

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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    641 posts
    What has participant apathy and ignorance done to advance the standing of our industry to help it grow and make it better?.
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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts
    warrenrobinson said:

    What has participant apathy and ignorance done to advance the standing of our industry to help it grow and make it better?.


    your the one telling the story, or let me guess , nothing to see here !!!
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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    3,348 posts
    Just watched the 10 replays at AP - big night of course alot of feature racing - and just outstanding harness racing , and that is why i  got hooked on trotting from a very young age 

    Of course AP is a 1st class track and allows harness racing to be showcased at its brilliant best , perfect example Pete McMullens drive on Gus in the Square Gaitors-  the move at the bell to get the lead - well at GP the track is too tight you just cant do that 

    Not being critical of the WA Participants or the horses re the standard of WA Harness racing - but if you have a rubbish track like GP then you will have a rubbish product 

    There is that other WA Trotting  forum i did read a litt;le bit of it - but it was just the same theme over and over - eveyone was a great person , everyone was a top trainer , everyone was a top driver and of course no one ever broke any rules 

    What id love the one in charge of that other forum to do is say right there is over 100 of us on this forum - we all love Trotting , ok the most important point re WA Trotting , is keeping  an 800 metre track and spending a small fortune on doing that , I want everyones views on that , and that if that happened ( apart from being sensational reading ) it  might just put a little bit of public pressure on the ones in charge to make the obvious correct decisions for the betterment of WA Harness Racing going forward 

    And that isnt keeping an 800 metre track and pisssing away  $25 million of  precious industry funds doing it 
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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts
    Queensland leading the way in my opinion as to how to wright a sinking ship, they showed that stripping the product back, rebranding and rebuilding is the only way forward in this current climate , provided a bunch of stat's and figures a few years back proving this , but was shot down and labelled autistic by one prominent poster on this forum, proving that harness racing in WA will continue to grow stale if we dont evolve and continue to live in the past like some people would much rather do
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  • LightningJakeLightningJake    60 posts
    Markovina said:

    There is that other WA Trotting forum

    Markovina said:


    Markovina said:

    Pray tell what it's called. Living in country WA I miss all the gossip. 

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  • LightningJakeLightningJake    60 posts
    Sorry Marko, that didn't come out quite right
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  • LightningJakeLightningJake    60 posts
    I was asking what the "other" WA forum was called.
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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    641 posts
    What has Artificial Insemination achieved for our breeding to help grow and make our industry better.
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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    641 posts
    Queensland harness racing going along swimmingly down 12.1% on turnover last year as per the annual report.
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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts
    warrenrobinson said:

    Queensland harness racing going along swimmingly down 12.1% on turnover last year as per the annual report.


    1 year doesn't dictate the direction a product is heading surely being the businessman you are youd understand that warren, how does Queensland line up turnover wise against the other states in the past 5 years ? Im sure that stat will paint a different picture , as did all the other stat's i provided a few years back, back in the day of "stat's and figures dont lie......unless they go against what I want "
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  • MarkovinaMarkovina    3,348 posts
    edited July 6
    LightningJake said:

    I was asking what the "other" WA forum was called.

    If you google " WA  interdominion and Harness Racing Legends - Facebook "

    Bob Pollocks son runs it 

    Yes there is some interesting stuff , but ive stopped reading  it , because its just self indulging  patting everyone on the back , they are all great in all aspects , as  people - as trainers - as drivers as owners 

    Like on the PTT forum i put up the article on Jim Schrader from the 1977 harness horse magazine - its listed the good - all his achievements which there were plenty - but it also listed the not so good , like being suspended and missing 5 out of 6 Summer  Carnivals and why was that because he was a rough driver . I saw the great FRK give Schrader , Mick Malthouse type sprays after a few feature races because of the interference he copped 

    Now that Facebook forum if they were discussing Jim Schrader , oh wasnt he fantastic blah blah - no matter who they are discussing it is just so one sided , all the lovey dovey good stuff and they all give it likes - thats why i stopped reading it

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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    641 posts
    Queensland,2 years certainly dictates how a business is running, y/ending 24, down 8.2% followed by the -12.1%, let's hope the tide returns this year with the Inter Doms, World Drivers Championships etc.
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  • LightningJakeLightningJake    60 posts
    Markovina said:

    LightningJake said:


    If you google " WA  interdominion and Harness Racing Legends - Facebook "



    Thanks Marko
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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts
    warrenrobinson said:

    Queensland,2 years certainly dictates how a business is running, y/ending 24, down 8.2% followed by the -12.1%, let's hope the tide returns this year with the Inter Doms, World Drivers Championships etc.


    2 years is a tiny sample size when your talking an industry this big
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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    641 posts
    A Few Good Men.
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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts
    Good men dont always equate to what's good for business
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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    641 posts
    What has reducing the footprint achieved to help grow and make our industry better?.
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  • Chopchop43Chopchop43    471 posts
    warrenrobinson said:

    What has reducing the footprint achieved to help grow and make our industry better?.


    worked for Queensland
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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    641 posts
    There ain't no pill to take, not a class you can attend nor a book you can read, stupid is forever.
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  • warrenrobinsonwarrenrobinson    641 posts
    What has changing the format of the Interdomion achieved to help grow and make our industry better?.

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