who is....Mike Reindl....and what is this????West Australian Racing

carey

https://www.waracingstrategy.com.au/about-us.html

and

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/rwwa-review-race-handicapping-programming-mike-reindl-mba-bec

apart from the fact there is some nonsense reading there,(although i was just perusing and not studying) why had i never heard of it before?

was it something official or just some guy trying to be clever?

i actaullly found this when googling beirne and handicapping review, or something like that

Ridersonthestorm33

No MBA or AIB here but will give Mike a little hand for the topic of 'on course attendance'...try free admission.
Change racing 1000 times over, institute whatever, the crowds are not coming back. But for goodness sake let the punters in for free.
Railway Stakes, Kingston Town, Perth Cup days excepted.

Rodent

So was Mike on his L's? Did I read correctly that his study was done as part of his MBA requirement? Why not get someone who already had an MBA to do the study?

 Wouldn't that be like having a medical student doing surgery on you so they can obtain their degree?

carey

so did you watch beirne's presentation?

if yes, thoughts?

DamienWyer

My brother in law just graduated with a MBA from the UNSW, what surprises me is that while he has been running a very successful business and with the pressures of a young family, the seven years it took him to complete the Masters part time, this gentleman did in two years presumably full time.

Getting past that, the ideas he has to revitalise Racing in Perth is very much cloud based wishful thinking. He talks about different surfaces for Winter, lights for Friday nights to leverage off Mooney Valley and having had a quick peruse of his report, factually wrong in a lot of its claims. I'm sure to the non-racing person this sort of report looks legitimate enough for the purposes of a graduates paper, but this report is not loaded with solutions.

DamienWyer

carey said:

so did you watch beirne's presentation?

if yes, thoughts?

I have watched the presentation twice and honestly some of it is hard to follow in its meandering. Bernie is not a gifted speaker, a lot of it seemed confusing purely because the presentation got lost several times.

His facts are hard to refute. Handicapping in WA is appallingly biased. My client has made the decision to sell healthy horses that simply cannot run to their current ratings. Gigante, Lorentinio and City Star are rated well above their ability and collectively have had a lot of runs since winning lowly classed races without any real adjustment in rating.

At the same time, horses that are seemingly having a lend of the system, get to run around in races with no real penalty in respect to their ability because of a minimal four point winning impost that reflects nothing about how the win was achieved.

What this situation has created is a Trainer mentality that places their horses in races that will have a minimal impact should the horse win, or as it is known 'going through the grades'. What this has produced is a lowering of class in WA so much so, that in the last decade we have lost 80 plus rated races off our regular programs. When the situation with a decent horse gets away from the Trainer because he can't slow the thing down, that Trainer is faced with traveling to the Eastern States because we have abandoned the support of good quality races.

His presentation had a couple of holes but I hope it is adapted with urgency.

carey

i agree it was hard to follow.

but most of what i could follow looked fine, apart from the dual ratings, which he and i have long disgreed on.

he is actually a good speaker usually, and i reckon he was probably very apprehensive here.

when you think about it he is on a hiding to nothing, as it matters not what he said, it will put people offside.

were the handicappers there and breahing fire i wonder!

they probably see it as them being undermined, rather than the fact that they are not good at their jobs, and he is simply trying to fix it.

the report itself needs to be released so people can peruse it at leisure.

i guess i could ask him, but he would probably refuse me, as he would deem it up to rwwa i imagine

DamienWyer

The report is released sometime this week.

Where Trainers got offside was I'm told, that the conversation was along the lines of 'wait until you see what Dominic has come up with. Horses will go up faster but not come down' or words to that affect. Of course this is a misunderstanding of what the report actually said and speaks volumes to the current environment and how things can get so quickly off track when different sides are pushing their own agenda's.

Handicapping alone won't fix Perth's problems, but it is a good start. If we can return to running races that punters feel they can get value, then perhaps turnover will increase and maybe even people may attend race meetings.

carey

good that it is being released.

the problem with them going up at the moment, is that when they do there is nothing for them.

that is not a handicapping problem, that was a manufactured problem of the programming and/or handicappring department.

i have been banging on about that here for a very long time.

give them the higher grade races which are no longer there, and they will be fine

not that long ago there was preponderance of 84+(or maybe even 86+), now the normal highest grade apart from listed is 72+.

that there is 9kg between 72+ and 90+ is ridiculous, that there a a few(fug all) 78+ does not detract from that.

handicapping might help their turnover, because the beirne way will mostly ensure more even contests.

and more even contests make for more varying opinions, and more open markets.

too late for me though, but hopefully they can stop the bleed which is self inflicted.

Jell

It's hard to take that LinkedIn article seriously when it's littered with spelling and grammar errors.

It's expected on a forum, such as this, since people are just having a quick say. On an article being submitted as part of a MBA, you perhaps want to proof read it once or twice :-?

carey

i wonder if he is on here, as it appears he is a wa racing tragic.

i was not interested enough to do anything other than run a quick eye over it,so i never realised it was part of a MBA.

does that mean it's nothing to do RWWA?

and he is just writing opinion to try and get his degree or whatever a MBA is?

RIO

If you wind the clock back to school Carey. It'd be like doing an assignment for school......But you have to show that you understand your subject. So nothing to do with RWWA

carey

so it was a d minus then? :)